Banned from TBDEV.NET ?
 

well all i can say is its ABOUT TIME somebody else from tbdev had the balls to tell coldfusion how much he's killed TBDEV acting like a child and trying to make something his work which wasnt from the start and then having the guts to call xam .

:lol: TBDev having power troubles I see!
wunder who well be on the chopping block next?:nosepick:

guess who :lol:

now that i am banned from there i am free to post here and other places without fear of reprisals against my tbdev acct.

i have lots of friends i have made at tbdev.net and in the tracker/coding community and i am posting this to pass along what has happened to my account at tbdev.net for these people and those interested.

for the record i was banned earlier today because i was shown a link on a friends test tracker which has about 40 members, 17 of these given staff class, as the site is mainly members who modify their tbdev sources, pointing to this tbdev thread.

the thread is a theme made by a member for tbdev.net source.
http://www.tbdev.net/index.php?showt...0&#entry169846

Coldfusion:
Now, anyone who is a member over there knows what a great communty, forums, and wealth of knowledge it has over there, stick around a little while and you'll also realize we have an arse as an admin. Constantly belittling peoples work, insulting them, threatening them, being a hypocrite * hint * when it comes to code credits and creating an atmosphere of fear to express ones self.

If people i know from tbdev want proof or links to his actions, i can help with that if get a hold of me on msn/IRC or just search some posts and check out shout archives. :]

Childish antics suchs as these svn log messages just about sum up the maturity level of the admin at times:
http://tbdevnet.svn.sourceforge.net/.../SQL/?view=log
As some of you are probably aware the day snuggles was banned i was temp banned as well, CF went on to post in a thread after that, that i was responsible for the end of tbdev development then i argued with him and forced him to change his mind about changing the source from gpl to a no-derivative works cc license (the thread is still there for those interested).
Coldfusion:
http://www.tbdev.net/index.php?showt...dpost&p=164503

How the heck did we end tbdev development? :s

I got banned for explaining how the licensing works to Member2 in shoutbox. Member2 didn't want some picture in his test sites footer, the cc license image he wanted to remove. CF told him when asked if he could remove it (on his test server) that he can't remove it. I suggested using an older version which was gpl and not the 09 source (which had a cc license 'no derivatives' added to it, when CF has no right to change licenses since code is/was gpl and there are only minor changes to source done by him since he's been redistributing it.) He said me explaining this to him and recommending the gpl version was me telling him how to circumvent something or other so i got banned for a day :P

Now, I am not gonna get into all that stuff here in this post just giving a little background story on the admin, a guy that once had much of my respect.

anyways...having been shown this link to his comment, i responded in the shoutbox of this test tracker (i am not gonna post everything said).

here is shoutbox log from about an hour before i logged onto this test tracker up to the time just after i got banned from tbdev.net:
note: Read from the bottom up.
Now i notice i am banned from tbdev.net and can only see 403 page. Am banned for speaking nothing but facts on a site that is not related at all to tbdev
He has said this many times in the past ^^
This is the time i came online and read the link posted ^^
Members 8, 5 banned(i was misinformed, was just me banned i guess lol) as well as myself as far as i know, banned for carrying on a conversation on a private site that Coldfusion has been lurking in.

btw i will be still be supporting any tbdev source users via IM chat, my site and sites like these. I also plan on releasing my own sourcecode soon since i am free to do this now without fear of being banned, as well as supporting and making mods for the upcoming sctbdev sourcode which is gonna rock :]

what is tbdev you ask?
tbdev is a great learning tool and community which once had such members posting there, such as Laffin, Retro, System, Snuggs, blanconero, TUX, Enzo1, devinkray, Member5, pdq and many others of course.
where did they all go?
funny how most of these people are still very active on other sites. :P

am i pissed at the actions of the admin? yes! :) did i say bad things about him? sure! calling him an arse and a hypocrite aren't the nicest things i've ever said but at least it is me being honest and only repeating things he is quoted as saying at tbdev.net.

We really need the words FUCKWIT and RETARD in the tbdev source config.php? what the heck is that?

He needs to state in a thread over there that i am responsible for ending any futue tbdev development? cause i explained how licensing works to another member in the shoutbox there??

there are things i am fed up with at that i have not mentioned anywhere in public...regarding direction of source... as i am willing to give him a chance to redeem himself first and make these issues a moot point.

i speak up about these things because i got fed up by those actions and the direction he is taking the tbdev forums and tbdev source. most of which i haven't mentioned here or anywhere public.

I'm not bashing CF in my words that got me banned nor in these posts here and i'd hope all the childish back and forth can end.

<3 snuggles.

besides bvlist here are 2 other sites/forums that i will be active on and support budding coders:
http://www.sctbdev.ca
http://btdev.net

if posting those links not allowed feel free remove em :)

=]

thanks Tony and pdq :party:

it's nice to see people saying nice stuff for a change lol (I actually joined just to say that lol).

hey, shit happens, and karma can be a bitch. I have no bad feelings towards anyone. and though I told pdq "don't lose your account at TBDev on my account, there are a great bunch of folks at TBDev, and regardless of where it's heading, it's good to keep the good folks together."
well ... too late now lol

I hope that the good ones will find their way to other venues that will be more supportive and friendly, with a sense of community.

I won't post any links, as I just joined and haven't read the FAQ / Rules etc (I know bad me) but I'm still posting new code / mods and may even get involved in the next branch of TB based code.

regardless, thanks for the nice words you two :)
and anyone trying to find me or where I post, ask pdq... she's in he know, and as always, I'm happy to share anything I do...

it's been said, "sharing is caring" and knowledge is power...

cheers!
snuggs

xoxoxoxoxox

How could he ban pdq, is he nuts?

Well now i guess everyone can agree CF is an idiot !

Snuggles no need to thank since its about time coldfusion did abit of the work on tbdev himself for a change instead of all the rest running the place while he spends most of his time being a power freak and trying to use his own forum to point out that users shouldnt use torrentstrike because a exploit was found .

Then goes to the trouble of reporting me for using a nulled ipb forum lol

And to finish off with .

He went through all that trouble of announcing that anybody found coming here (bvlist) would be banned from tbdev yet he somehow found it ok for himself to come here and then post about it on tbdev hoping the tbdev users would lick his arse and take big interest in whatever he puts after .

People need to stop licking his arse on tbdev because the only thing coldfusion is doing to tbdev is killing it off and losing all the good coders which is already happening now sadly ..

I have seen a lot of crap in my days but.......
 

You people need a history lesson first of all Tony in the early days I banned you off of my site for doing what ?? spamming the crap out of it .. so you are one to talk about anything... next we will take the faster announce... what a joke that is, all snuggles n the rest did is replicate something that was done in 2005 and I even enlightened the sir snuggles about it and he still took credit for it and even posted the original link to it - but yet he takes credit for it ?? then bashes CoLdFuSiOn - wtf - we were there to help each other in the early days not to worry about who did what - in my eyes he has done nothing more then anyone else has done with the original code with the exception of selling it like xam the @#$##$% -

next we take pdq - I personally stood up for u - I am the one that recommend that he ban you - he had demoted you - you made me a promise...

what everyone needs to understand is that it is all based on ByteMonsoon
and CF was the one that has kept the legacy of the torrentbits code alive for years in fact I dare say if it weren't for him that code wouldn't be as popular as it is today he even kept tbdev alive out of his own pocket at times... for what to be bashed ?

and you know what .... all anyone has done here is to prove him right in what he has done...

tbh - you people learn a little @tbdev then you go round bashing it and CF
well I'm sorry bout this post but it had to come out of me -

you r the idiots - you can ban me if you wish as I really don't want any part here -

this has to stop - if you have something to say to someone tell them directly and not on some bullshit forum -

you sir r an asshole he never said that - what he said was this anyone caught badmouthing him behind his back would get banned and I whole hardheartedly agree with that. I have badmouthed him when I didn't agree with him the only difference was I did it to him directly not on some other forum- I'm here and not banned there - dude you have a lot of growing up to do - actually you all do..........

He wouldn't do something like that - and you are a buffoon for using a nulled anything for a public forum ! Did you ever stop to think you did it to yourself and it wasn't nulled correctly and it called home ?

I can code something that would be seemingly harmless but once invoked it would call up other seemingly harmless bits and once completed it would do anything I desired it to do...and you or anyone else would never know about it...

but again you demonstrate just how low you really are..using a hacked form like that, then accusing someone for turning you in, when in fact you are using a hacked forum.......LOL - just who is the fool there ?

so why isn't there any credits to bytemonsoon or torrentbits or anyone else in the code?
you want me to believe that the 'by coldfusion' doesn't bother you when i know for a fact that it does bother you too?

how did i break a promise? i did not make a promise to bend over for him or stand by while he insults tbdev members and calls their work shit.
up to the moment i was banned i was supporting members on the forum and i've never spoke one bad word about him at tbdev.net or any forums until i was banned and free to speak my mind without threat of ban.
demote and ban me for what? for being an active member who posts tons of mods and helps out all the newbies? for being a member who promotes tbdev and gets others interested in it? demote and ban me cause i refuse to kiss his ass and suck up to him like some of the remaining coders there must do?
ban me for saying:
that is a FACT, he has stated the above many many times in the shoutbox and in forum posts, usually in a more insulting manner and has stated the days before I was banned that he has on his slate to be deleting all the old mods off of forums cause they're shit.

he has also since i got banned hidden/deleted the Your Tracker section that members of tbdev promoted and showed off their tbdev sites.

he bad mouthed me and others continuously on tbdev.net, and we're supposed to put up with this cause he's been around a long time? because he hosts the source and created the tbdev community this gives him a green light to treat the members like theyre sub human and insult and demean them?

i did nothing but good for tbdev.net only to have the admin there disrespect me and remove the credits that were added to source by me for all the work i did on the latest source, who you think fixed all the xhtml errors and removed all the deprecated short tags? it sure wasn't him. then he goes on to blame me for wrecking tbdev cause i was one of the only ones standing up to him when he tried to unjustly change licenses to a no derivative license?

fact is that he is a hypocrite, he complains that people remove tbdev credits and steal tbdev code (which is open source by the way and cannot be stolen) meanwhile he is stealing other peoples code and removing credits...

frankly without my contributions as well as those i mention above in my other post by my mentors and peers there would be very little content at tbdev.net.
i hope he sees the errors of his ways and tbdev.net turns back into a fun place to be. :)

... me I've moved on I've had enough and i/we will be releasing some tbdev versions as well as working on sctbdev and have plenty to keep me busy in the future.

sorry can't do that, as you are well aware CF bans anyone who questions his actions/insults.
As noted in his banning of me for stating facts in a private matter on a site with 40 members who most feel like I do but only a few willing to risk their tbdev accounts to speak up about it:

=]

@pdq - I have respect for you and you know that.. and tbh you should know that I speak my mind and I care not about being banned anywhere and that includes tbdev - if I am to be banned anywhere then so be it -

I agree CF has used some wrong verbiage in a few posts I saw - in fact I even corrected a few at risk of taking the piss -

but you know what - look around @all of this crap - is it really needed ? can you blame him - put yourself in his place and I ask you what would you do if you were him ?

and you are correct it bother me and you know what else ? after seeing crap like this, I can safely say that it no longer bothers me -

what about xam, yuna and so on, that took the code and all of the mods and call all of the code theirs with there headers that it was all done by them and then some turn around and sell it...with back doors that they can do what they please...

I do tire of all of this back stabbing though - the truth of the matter is this if it wasn't for CF I don't beleave torrentbits would of survived - for anyone to use as a base or reference -

What we need to do is get back to the community mindedness that we have lost over the years - that is what made us great -

again TBH with you if I were in CF's shoes I can honestly say that I would be a bit nastier then he is.

he has been nothing but loyal to me and he has given me nothing but slack to get my head on straight - for years now - So when it comes down to it I will take his side as he has earned my respect and loyalty as he has tolerated me for years now...and I have done nothing but slack off...

but this has to stop - threatening him with a dos and then a ddos- What kinda crap is that - if I were to be mean I could be.. actually I am a whole lot smarter then I let off....lol

I am not here to start a flame war or put anyone down - I just call it as I see it -

If you are interested I will talk to CF on your behalf about you -

added below ----
and what about you and the source that you are going to release ? what headers(comments) is it going to have ? is it going to reflect all of the history of the code that it was based on ? even if you just got ideas from the torrentsbits code it is still based on it

hehe must be nice to be in his good graces :) he has insulted me and demeans me and called me many names in the shoutbox over there.
i agree that they should be giving credits to original creators and tbdev or tbsource and mod creators but i don't use those sources, i use a tbdev derived source.

i disagree that tbdev is in the same class as these sources, tbdev is supposed to be classy, we wanna put tbdev on the same level as these sources that give no credits or worse sell them?

also credits are a non-issue to me they only became an issue because he has put his name alone in headers on codes that are not made by him, at all, and then turns around and complains about others doing that exact thing! If he didn't complain about it, it wouldn't be a big issue to me, but i see it as hypocritical to demand members do one thing then he turns around and does what he tells everyone not to do.

of course i know that he keeps tbdev alive by being admin, supporting members, managing the forums and making available the source these are all pluses and he deserves credit, but, it is all the negatives that are now starting to outweigh all the positive things he has done and which lead me to the path I am now on :P

i agree bashing or name calling is childish but all ive said in all the words i posted above is that he was an arse, thats about it :P. I've been called much worse over there by him, I've been called things by him that shocked me and i was very insulted. I tried not to let it bother me but obviously it has, the straw that broke the camels back was seeing him insult that member at tbdev which lead to me saying 'I'd expect no less of him' in a private manner.

It's ok thebrass, don't worry about me :) I feel a great weight lifted off my shoulders now, Im done with bringing up this topic of him and this is hopefully my last post on this specific matter, I have no wishes to ever return to tbdev.net unless it became a fun place to be again and I hope it does. :)

you know me I'm all about the fun, I don't hate, I can't believe I got banned even, so much for free speech. (It's not like I said that at tbdev.net or here)

I can still contact all my friends and peers from tbdev.net in other manners and that is the most important part, I feel sad it had to end like this but I can only be insulted or see other people insulted so much before I speak up.

PS. who is threatening with dos? :shock: not me, i just reporting that i got banned :)

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i dunno what headers will be yet but the source is gpl, so i would wish that members keep headers intact but if they don't, oh well, they are within their rights to be lame and remove them.
source will also have in faq, credits to the 3 sourcecodes and credits to individual coders.
I can assure you that the headers and credits will not consist of only 'by pdq' http://xxxxxxx.xxx hehe :]

=]

LOL - I would not say I am in his good graces -

I do worry about ya gal - and you will be missed - and I feel responsible for your banning.

tbh - I never saw him bash you - but I have my own problems and am only there intermittently so I might of missed it - but I will strive to get back and help it to become a fun place -

I'm happy to hear that you can still touch those that you touched - Yes I agree it is sad that it ended this way -

TBH - we all need to grow up and act our age ----- myself included - but I had to speak out - and I know posting here solves nothing and makes me look infantile.

It was the way you spoke out - instead of confronting him directly, you chose a different path and that was wrong - why didn't you say anything to me so I could bring it to him ? thats what I am there for....amongst other things that I am failing to do... because of personal reasons.

the dos -n- ddos threats against tbdev came from this forum -not from you, the ones that made the threats know who they are -

Over the years I have become a bit bitter myself - I have seen a lot of things come and and go, I have watched many people get swelled heads -n- think that they are gods gift and have seen many of them fall...

I have been around a very long time - I used a different name back then -
we all originated from the same place -

I believe that it is time to stop this nonsense and work together.

See you clearly state that your heart is into tbdev - let's at least try to get along - and make tbdev a fun place to be - if you ever wish to talk im still in msn

that is not true, as I have confronted him many, many times - I did so over you (one example) - and I must say he doesn't always respond but he doesn't ban me - but I do it to him directly -

@thebrass you are the only one here to say anything about dos and ddos
and this is where I well step in!

Not finding this so LOL and trust Me I find humor in herasing allot of people just to get a reaction!

I find no humor in what I posted and I have not threatened anyone in anyway - and I an not harassing anyone in any way - I'm just stating facts -

I don't intend to get into it with you - that's not why I am here.......

those threats were made from here against tbdev -

that about sums it up wouldn't you say ?

it was not today or yest it was a while ago -

btw : this does look like a threat to me - it's from your own shout box -
-n- btw don't I know you from the soup?

I agree at 100% with pdq
They are some points that members need know about who is the really CF and what he did before and what he did now.
My idea is that this "CF" have a doble personalite. Yeah! A guy with "double personalite" is a sick guy in my country.

Sometimes he make a small shit but others times make a big shit. In the fact i think that CF is in second stat of spirit. A big shit is what he are doing now in tbdev.

He will destoi tbdev. What is he doing in last days? Banning people? Demote people? I can be more far away! I think that he is spamming the tbdev right now for show activity!

When he know that only activity is making by few new guys with a "lols" Problems that CF try help. (Yes, try help cause i think that somethimes he know less then new guys that post problems).

And is like pdq say:
"also credits are a non-issue to me they only became an issue because he has put his name alone in headers on codes that are not made by him"

This is a poor men!
Is the credits that incrase your e-penis CF? Is "only you" that make and upgrade the sources?
All the mods that people really apreciates was made my Sir, putyn, pdq, retro and others coders.

Also the source is supported by that coders to.
And you? What you post? What you help? What you do?

All your posts are trying show your superiority eg: Do not do this, read rules, my mommy coder better with no heads, and more!

And you get the credits? Camon... Be a men just for one time.

Tell to all members that donate to you, for a source that was not made by you only!
I dont have the skills coding that you have, but im sure that im more men then you. Let me take my coffee of the day.

Mr brass what reason did you have to come here other than try and claim i spammed your site years ago ?

Go back to tbdev and waste yet more time doing staff work for lazy arse coldfusion which tbh untill he released the latest tbdev source hasnt done nothing for the past how many years? and then finally comes out of his hole and demands all this crap over this place lol

What is more childish me spamming your site years ago (which tbh cant really say ive spammed a site) or coldfusion using his tbdev svn to leave messages about this place and then banning people for VERY childish reasons and to finish off with he even went as low as claiming a members theme was rubbish because the KID called tbdev lol

Tbdev is a great place but it will only stay a great place if coldfusion stops banning the only people that have given there time to help others and then even more time by supplying tbdev with new mods .

I think the biggest problem on tbdev now is with the problem of people not being able to make a post that is simply asking coldfusion a question yet somehow gets deleted because YOU didnt agree with how it followed on after coldfusions pet poodle asked you to remove my post because he couldnt take the shit that was thrown back at him after he thought he was being smart turned into him acting like a hardman behind a monitor lol (yes i seen it for myself when he asked you in the shoutbox)

straight from coldfusion
Well it didnt take me long to see how the infomation got out in the first place hey mr brass or is posting such a thing on tbdev not opening annoncing about it ?

You talk about how people shouldnt backstab yet coldfusion seems to be using his forum as a openly place for claiming other sources are crap but only after they get banned lol

As for his comment about the mods being copyrighted lol we dont all walk in the same footsteps as him and add a single name to the credits but hey like i said he's come out of his hole now after so many years and it should be quite interesting to see how tbdev changes .

you forgot to post all the times that me and all the other admins said not to do a damm thing this well all pass!!! Just where did those Quotes go???
OH just another case of posting what you want so people are forced to make ell informed decisions...
NOT to mention he is only a member not part of the staff!!!!!!!!
and as for flaming how about this one?
and that is In ever single down load of tbdev Not just in one shout box on one single forum!!!!
sounds and looks like a guy codling :friend: someone to me!
could be!

all in all as I have said many many time's I have respect for TBDev as a code and have never dissed it do no one!
I have tried to help with some of the ill codes With NO respect or thanks from any of the lead staff at TBDev In fact I Get what OH yea BANNED!!!!!
PFT don't expect me to show no sympathy for what is going on as I well not.
In fact I wish
PDQ
Tony
snuggles and the best in there future endeavor(more then I got from WHO?)
HEHEHE and On a liter Note I need coder help if any of you would like to help me :drink:

@joeroberts - I can only change and correct things that I know about -

i would hope that a staff here can change thebrass's title to something he would like to have or leave it blank as that is uncalled for, should save that kinda stuff for if xam becomes a member.


*note thanks whoever changed it :)

=]

hey TheBrass, AND Tony AND pdq, I'll remove all of my post, ftw lol
not for any other reason then I like and respect you all!

I do NOT want to be part of any fight between anybody, or any site (I hope you remove what you said about me as well TheBrass)

all I will say is CF was a dick, I was a dick back, and as to who had the best dick? well I don't want to get into a post about sword fighting, so I'll end it there. (but there is footage on lubetube.com)

peace,
snuggs.

PS. I'm still coding and sharing and caring, feel free to find me, I'm easy to spot, I'm a rabbit and I have a pancake n my head... I'll be happy to share whatever I come up with :)

Respect !
 

Sir_SnuggleBunny and pdq I just want to thank you for both standing up for me -
and I want you to know this -

We need not look and / or dwell on the past - tis the future that matters -

Also I want you both to know that I only have respect for the both of you ! -

I kin only change what I kin change as I tire of this :wallbash:

Mistakes have been made in the past, all we can do is move on - I just want the bashing of CoLdFuSiOn and TBDev to stop -
You have to understand this CoLdFuSiOn is my friend and TBDev is my home and I wont stand by and let them be trashed -
CF has earned my respect also, way back, so that is a no brainier there-
and if I am to be bashed and made sport of, that's cool because ya know what it's not about me or you, its about us the community and its time to end all of this -

Somewhere along the lines we have seemed to have lost that "Community Spirit", well it's time to get it back -

Also joeroberts you in a way are starting to earn my respect for changing that extra text and for what was in that pm you sent to me -much regards for all of that - nice coding on your project phpMyBitTorrent - keep up the great work on that -

Snuggles please edit / remove parts or your post - no one needs to know all of that -

da
 

I`m very sorry for my dumb post!
//But why you all were baned?! pdq is good coder and i use his mods :shock:
Whats happens now!

To pdq, you bove to bvlist? :drink:

Just a pee on
 

Well I have been on TBDEV for a while and I am so grateful to all coders.

I saddens me to see all this as far as politics.
I am one of the newbies that was afraid to ask questions years ago because of the responses from some folks.

Hey go learn html or here or go here to w3 schools and learn php.
I really hated looking stupid even though I was.
Then snuggles started posting and actually standing up for some of the newbies.

He would tell experienced coders that it was not the proper way to treat people.
He would stand up when someone was talked down to.

My God what a breath of fresh air.
Pdq would post after a coder would say you need to learn html and she would post the answer and help.The brass has always been polite also.

I am not posting this to bash tbdev at all but to show something from a users point of view.
For over a year I was afraid to get involved as I watched users get reamed for stupid questions until I saw a change happening with snuggles and some very nice people who did not belittle folks and were willing to share there knowledge with out belittling users.

I have tried my hardest to post now and help out any user if I can because of there example to me.
I don't come here to much except to try and get answers to things as far as code stuff so I am not as experienced with your forum as far as how folks are treated etc.

I feel knowledge that is shared is fantastic and when it folks are treated with respect like snuggles Pdq and the brass has been in the past then we all benefit.

I hope TBDEV does not go back to the way it was when I first joined as it was a nightmare for a newbie and I thnak folks like snuggles and Pdq for changing the atmosphere.

Bjw

I find no humor in what I posted and I have not threatened anyone in anyway - and I an not harassing anyone in any way - I'm just stating facts -

I don't intend to get into it with you - that's not why I am here.......

those threats were made from here against tbdev -

yes tbv is going back as it was banning peeps so on i know this as they banned me for speaking out if they do not like you speaking out your banned from there :wild::fire:

I'm now another one who's come over from tbdev, just logged in there 2 minutes ago to find that they are now forcing 2009 on everyone by removing all mods for <=2008

Most tracker owners that i know are still using one of those versions so I can see a lot leaving there very soon!!

Hello

Popped over from tbdev. Removing the 2008 mods section yet again was the last straw for me. CF is going awol over there.

Heres hoping someone has an archive of the '08 mods and releases them here.

Nice to be here :)

So he deleted all those mods?
Once i wanted to take the mods from there but he was all over the place yelling i`m stealing his work so i let it go but now if he has removed it ...soz

Tbdev or i mean Coldfusion.. can do what they want, its only destroying there name - I have been totally shafted like others, vip then moderator had 4000 support posts and way over a hundred 08/09 modifications posted which i spent a long time doing for Tbdev and the members also had my account Bigjoos renamed to Tbdev2009, Ironically i walked away from that forum head high no dis-respect, not a word at all only to be brutally stabbed in the back, can you begin to imagine how that feels ? probably not - Now as been stated that suites Tbdev to do that because many members will assume Tbdev done all those posts and mods when many know different - I wont add any names but i also have a very dear friend who was also given the same Treatment.

Funny thing is i only ever wanted to work alongside Coldfusion with his full approval but as anyone and all can see he's a very bitter person that wont allow anyone to do jack shit.

Well Coldfusion i have news for you, i will go out my way to expose your latest stunt .. You can rename our accounts and steal the credit go for it what ever turns you on, shouldn't be surprised really you have publically ripped my work and credits off on the Multilayer forum which is clear to see on your SVN. Your nothing but a low life thief and what goes around comes around. All the good coders that meant something there have moved on.

Tbdev will slowly die if this continues and i can assure you there's dam good projects coming through from those that were shafted possibly as well as other independent motivated individuals that are very advanced. So Coldfusion you can Kiss my hairy ass ... You think your smart ? Well there's always someone smarter than you around the corner. GPL